GM Shelf Life

Discussion in 'CFL League Talk' started by Flash, Aug 4, 2013.

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How long?

  1. 2 Years

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    0.0%
  2. 3 Years

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  3. 4 years

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. 5 years

    0 vote(s)
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  5. 2 Head Coaching Hires

    5 vote(s)
    83.3%
  6. 2 bad drafts

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
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  1. Flash

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    Given the recent chaos going on in Winnipeg and now Edmonton, how long do you give a GM to right the ship before he is shipped out?

    2 years? 3 years? 2 Head Coaches?

    Multiple options on the poll so vote for a time + a situation.
     
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  2. Doogie58

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    In an 8 team / 4 teams per division league, if you can't right a ship in 3-4 max years as a GM and 2-3 Max years as a coach, then there is something wrong. Unless you have a massive amounts of injuries one year, to key guys like starter QB / go to receiver / RB etc. Reasons for early departure: sexual assault on a babysitter, being Kavis Reed or Dan Hawkins or Fred Fateri....
     
  3. Barracuda

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    I think you let the GM hire a coach at the start and then give him 1 restart with the coaching staff. Barring a bunch of injuries where he needs to find replacements, a GM's job is to put together a team in the off season and if that group of 50 players can't be figured out in 3 years it's time for a new one.
     
  4. deuvl

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    Popp may have an opportunity here. If he can lead his team to a decent finish, the nfl might come a-callin' and with the money that would get freed up the als can hire a gm and HC for less making hawkins' 3 year contract easier to absorb.
     
  5. Flash

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    Wasn't Jim Popp close to getting that job in New York with the J-E-T-S?
     
  6. CFLDaily

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    Flip side of that is if he can't patch up the wound then he's probably done with NFL aspirations. This entire season is an eyesore on a resumé for a person trying to get into the NFL for the first time.
     
  7. CFLDaily

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    As far as a GM goes, I think it varies by situation, but as a rough guideline - the standard contract for a head coach is three years, and so if I am hiring a new GM I give that duo those three years to get it right.

    If the GM fires said head coach during those three years he gets one year after that to correct it.

    Drafting, the CFL is quite a bit different as only about 15-25% of the draft sees the field in any given year, but I think you should at the very least be able to find 1 or 2 special teams and/or starters for the immediate season. Of course that varies by situation as well pending on how strong the draft is and if it is suited towards your team needs.
     
  8. deuvl

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    not so sure about that. Trestman hadn't been to the grey cup the last two years and after he won back to back no one really cared to have him. You have to factor that Popp is the only GM in the cfl who has been with the same team since 1996 and his success over time will not be sullied by one bad hiring. He just needs to have a decent 7-6 season. All those interviews he passed last off-season may not have gotten him in but we don't know if the interviewers weren't impressed enough to spread the word. You know that by season's end you'll likely have 10-15 nfl teams looking for new HCs and GMs. Reality of the business and all.
     

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