How to Make the CFL USA Work This Time and 15 Places Where It Could Thrive?

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  1. Seeker1

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    (Interesting article... CFL USA again???):oops:

    Two decades ago the Canadian Football League began experimenting with teams in the United States. After only three seasons, the experiment fell flat. However, rumors about the CFL expanding to Detroit/Windsor or Upstate New York surface from time to time.

    I think that it's time to look at CFL USA again. There's just too much money and too many football aficionados in the United States not to. With the proliferation of sports-only channels courtesy of FOX and Time Warner Cable, getting a TV contract wouldn't be hard.

    There are some reasons CFL USA went the way of the dodo, but they can be remedied. The primary reason was the poor placement of the seven franchises, which were located in Baltimore, Birmingham, Las Vegas, Memphis, San Antonio, Sacramento and Shreveport. None of these cities had NFL teams (and only one currently does), largely due to the fact that they were small markets and/or had inadequate facilities.

    None of these teams were in markets anywhere close to the Canadian border, nor did they have large Canadian enclaves. Quite the opposite, in fact: Some of the expansion franchises were placed in areas hostile to foreigners of any stripe, let alone Canadians. The CFL had considered more hospitable places such as Columbus, Hartford and Milwaukee, but made the mistake of reneging on those cities.

    Add to that, many of the CFL USA teams' front offices didn't know anything about Canadian football, and it's hard to believe CFL USA lasted three minutes, let alone three years.

    The first step to success with CFL USA is placing teams in the right cities with the right men in the front office. The other problems with CFL USA could be solved by running it independently of the CFL. Play games on Tuesday and Wednesday to avoid high school and college football, rather than the CFL's standard Thursday-Friday-Saturday slate.
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  2. Barracuda

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    The only time I've seen the CFL live was in Birmingham. Sure Legion Field is a little rough and the city isn't exactly paradise but man was it fun. The connection of Memphis, Birmingham and Shreveport really could've been something. Maybe if Las Vegas could've moved to Mobile or Little Rock this little group could've been something.
     
  3. Rich

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    I don't agree with expansion into the US. First off, this is the CANADIAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE, not the North American League. Second, the US has the NFL. The absolute only place that the NFL could expand into Canada is in Toronto. If only one canadian city could have the NFL, why would multiple US cities want the CFL? The NHL has enough problems keeping franchises in many US cities, the CFL is just to small a market. Many cities here already have enough trouble selling seats, heck Calgary has only one sellout in the last 2 years, maybe longer. It was the last Cal/Sask game here, even the labour day game has not sold out in a long time. The only viable place left to expand in on the eastern coast, that would then bring the team total to 10. But with an east/west division, it would be hard to have division rivals, it would then be better to have teams ranked 1-10, the top 6 make the playoffs. What needs to happen is that the CFL needs to be broadcast on major US networks, and determine if the viewer market is there to even consider going there, even then, it is still a Canadian game.
     
  4. Rids

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    Well the situation is that there are way more quality football players than actual opportunities. In addition there are literally dozens of available stadiums of considerable size and fans that need a little encouragement but are more than willing to support their college heroes.

    Canadians would be surprised at how many football people in the States know about the CFL and know a considerable amount of the rules too. The casual fans track their high school and college stars and will ask me if so-n-so is still playing in Canada.

    My belief is that for the CFL to succeed long term they need to reach 12 teams minimum. This once a decade growth isn't going to sustain the league. Right now the TV ratings are strong and contracts are finally getting to where they should've been 15 years ago. You can't run a business that taps out the revenue streams and expect it to just keep going.
     
  5. Doogie58

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    They should get to 10 teams before getting to 12. Don't think there's an appetite enough in 4 cities in Canada to build FOUR stadiums big enough with all the amenities the sports fan of today wants for buildings that would have maximum 11 paying dates a year. Hence the inability to expand. And going to the States would have its own issues, especially the import ratio rule as its unenforceable in the US due to Labour laws. There was a reason Baltimore was so good every year!

    Lets focus on getting TEN HEALTHY franchises. Not a league where one guy has to own two different franchises just to keep EIGHT teams in the league, both in Canada's two largest population markets and NEITHER of which come close to selling out - ever.

    Actually the heyday of live CFL bodies in stadium seats ( and hence suitable sites for league expansion) may well have crested, period. With higher ticket prices in cities that used to sell out, yes I mean like Calgary, along with the no blackout strategy for TV, and HI def big screen television technology, how viable of a business model is it - really?

    You can buy a good HiDef TV for about the same cost as two Stamps season tickets in the Silvers anymore. And the price of cable is about the same as it is the difference in costs for beer, snacks and parking for a game, than having the same at home, with no concession or food line ups.

    Yes it is a special time to go to a game live, but less and less people do. You don't have to be an Einstein to figure out why. And it's too bad. The CFL is a great sporting spectacle, but lives in the elephants shadows of the NHL. Currently 7 of the 9 CFL franchises need to compete directly against the National passion - Hockey - right in their own back yards, and its probably only a matter of time before the Southern Ontario Golden Horseshoe has a second NHL Franchise in close proximity, in not actually in Hamilton. Only Saskatchewan has their market where they are the only professional sports team in their direct market area, and for the foreseeable future I'd say, and you can see the revenue and attention differences there,as opposed to multi pro team centres There is just too much pent up demand for more NHL hockey in the GTA for there not to be another expansion or transplanted NHL franchise there soon.

    Hence the risk of expanding to far too fast. Maybe we should be grateful for what we have right now even.
     
  6. Rids

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    Facilities is the major issue for Canada. As a country Canada has the same facilities now as they did when it was a country of 25 million.

    I'm hearing it from all sports; basketball teams that don't have places to practice, youth hockey teams practicing at 6am or 8pm and even when they build facilities they aren't set up to accommodate any form of crowd.
     

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