Jim Popp Wants CFL Draft Tweaked

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  1. iso_55

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    Some interesting ideas from Als GM Jim Popp on tweaking the draft for underclass players who get drafted but may not ever see a CFL training camp as they have another year of college eligibility left. And about the opportunities for the 2 Canadian qbs the Als signed as free agents. Interesting read as he makes some great points:


    http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/cfl/20 ... ge%20draft
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    I agree with Popp that drafting players who still have a year of eligibility left is a waste of time. Let them go out on a limb & declare they are eligible before any team drafts them.
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    I'd also like to see the Canadian draft inclued American NCAA players not just Canadians. Chuck the whole secretive Neg List thing for good. So what if the CFL first pick in the draft might be a third or fourth round American player in the NFL Draft? By increasing the number of rounds we still draft the best Canadian players alongside the Americans. It would make for a much more open & exciting draft. What do you guys think?
     
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    I think the CFL might add an 8th round where each team picks 1 NCAA player of their choice and it becomes public knowledge that player is automatically injected into the CFL's neg list.

    Also, a 9th round where each CFL team drafts one canadian QB (either playing in CIS or NCAA) and must invite them to a mini-camp, a rookie camp and house them for at least 7 days at their pre-season camp.

    The NCAA draft just adds a bit of sizzle. CFL GMs will have to be careful between guys who would never give the CFL time of day vs quality tweener guys who may or may not make the NFL.

    The QB draft, while initially trivial would just give some of our local lads a bit more chance at various levels of pro camps, give our GMs, coaches, scouts, trainers, etc. a chance to get to know something previously foreign to them - canadian college QBs.

    The CFL could also change its rules to permit CFL teams to dress a fourth QB - so long as he's Canuck and so long as his salary meets a rookie standard (add it to the cap btw)
     
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    That is an impossible scenario. Especially on the verge of expansion you wouldn't have 8, 9 or 10 quarterbacks to pick from in a given year let along quarterbacks that would be able to hang for even 7 days at a CFL camp. It would make it a mockery and turn the Canadian QB into a red haired step child. In a draft 5 times larger (the NFL Draft) they still don't give much of a chance for the 8th QB taken in the draft to earn a starting job.

    Take this year into account with potentially a grand total of 6 QBs that would be worth a look and only 1, maybe 2 as QBs (both Montreal prospects now).

    Kyle Quinlan - pro QB size, skills, a winner, raw and needs to improve on his decision making/mental aspects of the game

    Kyle Graves - pro QB size, arm strength, mobile, a winner, raw and needs to improve on his decision making/mental aspects of the game, potentially he'll eventually earn his stripes as a full back

    Billy Greene - a Hec Crighton winner, raw, mobile, best shot at the next level as a running back

    Donnie Marshall - a winning OUA QB that doesn't have pro size, likely gets a shot down the road as a receiver and potentially could play his final year in the CIS as a slotback to gain experience

    Jordan Heather - strong armed QB with work needed on his mental game, would have to have a big year next year to even get a sniff, too many INTs

    Bryson Pluta - a D2 QB from Canada that saw the field more as a long snapper than as a QB, zero QB stats in his NCAA career
     
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    I realize rids that the CFL QB scenario is nigh on impossible but ya have to start somewhere. Only real problem with my idea, like you say is all 8 (9) teams rostering a 4th canuck QB. Maybe two or three, to start - - - IF THAT!
     
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    There was a Canadian qb playing in the NCAA in Louisiana somewhere. Whatever happened to him, Rids?
     
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    Miles Gibbon is at South Alabama. He'll be a redshirt Junior here this fall. Part of the 2013 Draft Class.

    There is also 2 other NCAA QBs that will be part of that Draft Class in Cayman Shutter at Hawaii and Victor Dikaitis at Minnesota State-Crookston (D2).

    The problem in instituting a rule is that it has to work from day 1. Forcing teams to add a NI QB is a no go even at the best of times as until we get into guys like Sinopoli having 5+ years in the league there isn't the depth and by the 3rd year it's not cost effective to keep them on the roster if they aren't making strides.
     
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    The only way they'll make strides is if they play. If they sit on the bench or just kept around as fluff on the roster then what is the point?
     
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    Another QB who's been deemed ineligible to play this year at U of M (pending appeal) is Khalil Gibran.....bit of a magic man!
     
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    Why? The Bisons have Khalil Williams & Ryan Marsche...
     
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    Actually, I meant Khalil Williams, who played 2 games of junior before getting injured. Coach Dobie has filed a CIS appeal to get Williams back as his QB - last year of eligibility. However, he's not counting on it. Problem with Williams, and I only saw a couple of his games last few years is he has a throwing motion much like former CFL'er RIchie Williams, - ie. a bit of a hitch in the motion, not that accurate and his fireball is more like a moonball! Good runner, reads well, though!

    You know anything about Ryan Marsh, Al? Didn't one or both of 'em play with your boy?
     
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    Pretty sure that Khaleal Williams has another year of CIS eligibility (5th year with the "new math") and next year will be his draft year too.
     
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    He was a great qb with the Rifles in junior but hasn't had the success in CIS. The Bisons also have Ryan Marsch from the Rfles now, too.
     

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