McGill to OUA?

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  1. Rids

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    It came out today that McGill has applied to join the OUA in football for the 2013 season (also known as the "Return of the Ravens"). It's a very unique situation that seems to make sense for the OUA as they would have 12 schools instead of 11 and could split into 2 fairly even divisions.

    What it leaves in Quebec is a little more up in the air. Should it be approved it would leave 5 schools behind with very little in the way of possible expansion. One idea that has floated out already is merging the Q and the AUS which isn't a stretch as they already have an interlock schedule between the two conferences (2 games a year) and the AUS has a couple of potential expansion schools thanks to the current club circuit playing at Holland College, U de Moncton, Dalhousie and UNB.

    It sure would create a CIS Super Conference with 12 schools in one conference, 6 in CanWest, 5 in the Q and 4 in the AUS. With nearly half of the entire countries schools in one conference you'd have to expect some changes when it comes to seeding for the National Semi Finals.
     
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    Having Atlantic Conference teams play with CIS teams in Quebec makes sense as they already play junior hockey in the Q. As well as the French language in places like New Brunswick. McGill would fit in well with teams from Ontario. I think it would all work out well.
     
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    From the whole McGill mess comes the thoughts that Saint Mary's is dealing with stadium issues:

    http://jimmullinnow.blogspot.ca/2012/05 ... whats.html
     
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    Drop football all together, McGill or join the 21st century. In today's CIS world, it's not about the "student athlete" anymore. It's about the player who wants to use football to get an education, then move on to play in the CFL. These kids have been motivated at school to get good marks to be able to attend a CIS University. When they finally get there they work hard, train hard, play hard & study hard. They WANT to play football & pursue a degree. But don't be fooled as football is the sole reason (for most players) why they are even there. Football IS important. If McGill doesn't get that, then drop athletics completely & concentrate on academics. Man, talk about being stuck in the 70's.
     
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    Don't know much about the situation other than to say it doesn't speak well for the teams in Ontario when an underperforming CIS program like McGill can't compete in its own province, doesn't want to go out to find private sponsors & wants to play LESS games rather than more. This whole thing makes McGill look like they are some kind of entitled babies who just can't compete. Besides, look a their facility now that the Als are there. Twenty five thousand seat remodelled stadium. No one else in Quebec or Ontario has that. The stadium alone should be used as a recruiting piece.
     
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    iso very few programs in the entire country would do well with Laval in their conference. Think how hard it has been to find CFL owners it's even harder to find owners for CIS/CJFL programs even at a much smaller budget. On one hand I really hate that schools need owners to compete. It should be school directed with alumni giving to supplement it but we're light years away from that. I'd guess that 85% of the CIS schools don't even give out all the scholarships they are entitled to.

    Laval has spring camp in Florida, 5 paid coaches (most CIS programs have 1 full time, 1 part time coach), full concession that turns a profit and more season ticket holders than most CIS programs draw. All of that because they have an owner that cares about turning a profit. They also seem to be able to recruit every French speaking NCAA bounce back player...(Freddie Plesius, Arnaud Gascon-Nadon for example)

    They also have a proven feeder system that puts older players into their program than the English schools in Quebec. The 3 French schools have a big recruiting advantage over the 3 English schools. Despite that McGill is the last non-Laval school to win a Dunsmore Cup.
     
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    The CIS allows it so my attitude is go out & find sponsors or the CIS should have hard, fast rules in place to prevent this from happening. Until then, oh well... too bad, so sad.
     
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    They only allowed it to get Regina and Laval to join while they were losing schools.
     
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    If that is true, it was a very shortsighted move & created haves & have nots. However, the rules are still in place so either McGill learns to deal with them or give up football. Sounds cold hearted but what else can they do?
     
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    They actually play one game a year against atlantic teams rids.
     
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    You're right it's only one. Should be 2 to save the AUS teams playing 1 opponent 3 times.
     

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