Stamps to sign Joe Lobendahn

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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    He is a throwback linebacker to another era. Big & tough but he had some problems getting to tailbacks runing wide & dropping into zone coverage in passing situations. Solid run stopper inside though. has a history of injury troubles. We'll see how he does at training camp.
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    If Samoo Joe (Sam for short) is fully rehabbed from his 3rd ACL rip, he'll be a force - rotational special teamer and run-stop specialist, you really don't want him out there in 1st and long or second and pass situations. Like iso says he just doesn't have the coverage - but the stamps know this, they've been plotting against him for several years.

    If he takes a minor salary cut (to account for not being a full-time baller) he can be an asset (designated import perhaps) as all reports from Jeff Fisher's gym in Wpg. say that Joe is in incredible shape.
     
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    I had an ACL tear to my left knee & it changed my life as far as what I could & could not do after surgery. I can't imagine tearing it THREE TIMES, have surgery each time, come back & still being able to play football. That injury is devastating. You don't lose a step after 3 ACL tears, you lose about 4.
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    His drop skills are inferior, to be blunt.
    However, you'll rememeber how he tracked down a speedster and stripped the guy of the ball at the Bomber 1 yd line to avoid a game-changing TD. So his straight-line speed is very good to excellent (for a heavy linebacker). However, football is not always a straight-line game, don't know if Joe can take all the zig-zagging CFL defensive football demands?
     
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    I think he's done but hey, it doesn't hurt for the Stamps to take a look at training camp
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    No harm in giving him a look.. if he can help us why not.
    hopefully its a managable deal.. if he does not work out thats ok.
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    It definitely can't hurt, especially considering that our linebacking corps really wasn't that great last year. Gone are the days when nobody could run on us. This is a far cry from our Grey Cup front 7 circa 2008. He certainly won't be asked to drop into coverage much and if he can come in and help bottle things up in probable run scenarios then I think he could find himself a niche.
     
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    Our linebackers are fast & undersized & we seemed to recycle them ever 2 to 3 years ever since 2008. Maybe that was Chris Jones philosophy.
     
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    Joe is surprisingly fast (fairly quick) but the main reason he didn't draw much NFL interest in his draft year was he probably failed to run backwards with any authority. If I can say he has one glaring weakness thats it! (not a good weakness to have in today's CFL; how do you adjust when you MLB can't fly backwards?
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    If used in the right situations he could be a major contributor. Juwan Simpson is undersized and not a great run-stopper between the tackles, although he does excel at snuffing out sweeps and screens to the sidelines. I think the plan may be to have more of a rotation at linebacker and D-line, with the stamps using 2 of the 3 designated import spots in the front 7, and have a guy like Morely who can move to the secondary from SAM linebacker if injury happens to a corner or halfback. This would only leave room for 1 of Coker or Taylor on offence though.
     
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    I think having 2 returners is a luxury we can't afford. It'll come down to which of those 2 is more versatile.
     
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    RE: Stamps sign Joe Lobendahn

    So Lobendahn has passed his physical and I guess they are still working on contract details - so nothing is signed yet.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports ... 06175.html

     
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    Lord Lyle is duty bound to protect the financial interest of the Stamps. With Samoa Joe's injury history they have to re-write his contract due to his veteran status and being tied down to his salary should he crumple into a pre-season heap of Joe....

    Probably trying to write him up an incentive laden contract with a new (lower) base. I'd suspect $70k + incentives that could end up paying Joe well over $120k if he makes all star, plays over 14 games (starts or finishes), tackle totals, etc.

    My suggestion would be $65,000 base, with $10,000 signing bonus + incentive package!

    Your welcome, Lyle!
     
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    Lobendahn should realize that the Stamps are his last stop. If he wants to put roadblocks up regarding a new contract then the Bombers will be his last stop. I'm lukewarm to bringing him in anyway as are most Stamps fans. So, great if he signs but no big deal if he doesn't. Personally, I'd rather find a younger linebacker who is healthy than a guy with lots of mileage & who has had 3 major operations on his knee. The young guy will be cheaper. With Lobendahn knee injuries he may last just one play.
     
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    agreed. if he is looking for a big pay day then I would be fine if he didnt come here.
    I am fine with him if he signs a reasonable deal. otherwise I would be against giving him a big pay day.
     
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    Especially from a guy who might only last one play... Huff should give him a take it or leave it proposition or go find another team to play for.
     
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    Lobendahn probably showed up in Cowtown based on Lyle's knowledge of the guy. Lobo is truly a van smack of great reknown - however, he can go down at any point after inking up with the Stamps. I suspect he's just looking for a pension out - cuz of his veteran status. If he goes down in pre-season, the Stamps (or their insurance) have to pay him in full. Thats why the base should be set very low. But if you get to watch this man in camp you'll think he's the second coming of Wayne Harris (hit wise) but Harris was 5'11" and 195 lbs. - Joe is around the same height but weighs in at around 243/244
     
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    Did you know that Lobendahn now lives in Winnipeg full time? He was being interviewed on CJOB by Bob Irving & was replayed on CHQR tonight.
     
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    Buckingham Pierce and Doug Brown also live in Winnipeg full-time. So does Obby Khan, Troy Westwood, Steve Morley, Kelly Butler, Paul Swiston, a few others. It must be noted that GM Joe Mack does NOT live in Winnipeg while head coach Paul Plop makes his home in Winnipeg.
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    After listening to Irving's interview with Joe Lobendahn, I'm really cheering for the man. I hope he makes believers out of all you stamps fans. If things work out half way thru the year you'll be calling him JOE HERO.....
     

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