WWE/Pro Wrestling Thread

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  1. Bronko

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    As far as WWE/UFC crossovers are concerned it appears Brock Lesnar is being used as a temporary rental player in WWE as his UFC days are over after getting brutally pummelled into submission his last two failed outings. Lesnar looks like a monster, talks like a monster but goes turtle very quickly after seeing how much sheer power and rage his opponents have for him.

    McMahon is salvaging Lesnar's reputation as a monster fake-wrestler by using him in a fake challenge with McMahon's son-in-law, Triple H....

    The only other guy who'd have some nice cross-over power at WWE would be Chael Sonnen BUT NOT as an in=ringer fake wrestler. Sonnen's mouth and his ability to cut promos would be an asset as a WWE fake announcer - replacing the very tired Jerry Lawler or some of the other swill the WWE trots out.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    I find the Lesnar thing total BS. Either he's a WWE wrestler or he isn't. Just like The Rock. Claims he loves the WWE Universe & is never going away & then disappears for years. What Cena said in the year leading up to this year's Wrestlemania (Number???) is true. The storyline is true. The Rock is total bullshit. Fans know it too. Truth mirrors fiction. Now, we're stuck with Lesnar doing the same garbage.
    And the mighty indestructible Undertaker. Only wrestles at Wrestlemania. Guess it takes a year for the Dead Man to recover now. Same with Triple H. Fans buy in so it's all about the money...
     
  3. Bronko

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    RE: UFC 149

    Lesnar is a rental superstar who's light is starting to fade badly (getting destroyed on live TV will do that to you; I suspect The Rock could have lasted longer than Lesnar before tapping out in wild-eyed fear)

    Lesnar is only reading lines Vince supplies him and showing up at appointed times WWE assigns him. His run-ins are carefully choreographed but they really won't let him rassle the upper mid-card talent or the top carders (like Cena) for fear of a botch up - - - and since Lesnar is only a temp, they don't want to put anyone over on him until its time - - - and putting Triple Ache over him makes most sense cuz Trips is a full-time WWE worker while Brock is at best, a rental.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Hey I know WWE is scripted entertainment but guys like The Rock & Lesnar are just milking the fans. Almost to the point now that WWE is becoming unwatchable.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Rock & Lesnar are just big-name rentals....

    They only make guest spot appearnances to spice up PPVs.

    And as you pointed out previously the 49 year old Undertaker is in such abysmal condition he can only perform at one event per year (Wrestlemania) and does 3 or 4 support appearances (interviews/promos) starting a month or so before his annual match.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    So, what's triple H's excuse then? Retirement to run the family business at 40?
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    HHH has other excuses. Yeah, he's fairly banged up at 40 but essentially he has to run the company (other than the overall philosophy dictated by McMadman)

    Trips has no where to go. If he goes back full-time you can't possibly expect him to book himself a professional loser and put over the micro-talent. And if he goes back and starts killing the script out of the top guys, eventually he becomes the only top guy and kills the company. So he's better utilized in those awful one-off matches (like with Undertaker or Lesnar) that feature about 95% talking and a 30 minute PPV match.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Now?

    Damn, I stopped watching over 10 years ago.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    What is this UFC thing of which you all speak?

    TM
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Time for Cena to be champ again. That's why CM Punk becvame a bad guy again last night.
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    I can just hear Vince McMahon yelping

    "I'm paying two guys big coin to pass each other in the hall, look at each other's underwear in the ring and NOT do anything?"

    "I must be mad!!!"

    Cena couldn't turn heel so they had to turn Phil Brooks (CM Punk)...

    Obviously, neither Lesnar nor HHH are going to be more than sideshow attractions for the big PPVs...
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    CM Punk was a pretty impressive wrestler in spite of his size. Best sign I saw at Wrestlemania this year during the cena-Rock match in Miami: 'Cena wins we riot'.

    U Can't C Me (mainly cuz this is a forum :p)
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Punk was very popular as the anti hero. Now he's the villain. Not a smart move. He was way more popular after he turned babyface when the Straight Edge Society was around. His on camera speech two years ago when he sat down on the catwalk & ripped the WWE was enormous. Now, he's a heel again?? Would have been bettter to turn Cena into a heel if just to make things interesting. Okay... The biggest mistake however was to turn Big Show into a heel. Now, the WWE doesn't know what to do with him. He can do anything he wants, he says? Sure, how about nothing??
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    I miss those good ole days. This show got me hooked to wrestling in 1985. I was 13. Heels and faces would change then too.

    RIP Big John, Junkyard, Moolah, Cpt. Lou, Andre. Hogan actually had hair in this show.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuPwQafb0Z0
     
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    RE: UFC 149

    Punk will still be popular and Cena will still be jeered at live cards. They couldn't turn Cena heel, just doesn't have the right personna to carry it off. He's the ultimate baby-face.

    As for Big Slow, they turned him heel cuz his stint as a face had expired. He's still the go-to guy when your top baby-face needs a big win and Slow will deliver it - guys like Cena have hoisted Show over their shoulders like a giant sack of potatoes.. . . . and they've hinted at Punk doing it as well.

    Only guy who won't hoist Show is The Rock, cuz it might be an insurance problem if Rock moves the wrong way and wrecks his back.
     
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    When DX came out Monday night, Chyna was absent. I thought that was interesting although she & Triple Hwere a serious item before he dumped her for Stephanie... Billy Gunn & Road Dogg in the same ring as Triple H. I was always under the impression that they hated the guy after they both left the WWE. So, is Damien Sandow an actual heel or a clown act like Santino Marella?
     
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    Chyna has morphed into a mid-level porn star and she was embarrassing herself at a porn convention a couple months back - passing out several times - McMahon doesn't mind porn or humiliation the two keystrokes of the WWE but he doesn't want a known porn act on his cards, and doesn't want a known loose cannon like Chyna working for him (even for one nite). McMahon owns the name "Chyna" and won't let her use it in her current career.

    As for Sandow - seems like a good athletic egg who'll do anything to latch on to a decent career. I'm sure McMahon sees him as a top level mid-carder but not a guy who's going to feature any significant PPV. Once they take away his strap, he'll be useful putting over the next group of up 'n comers (in a year or so)

    Thats the biggest problem in WWE - EVERYONE ROTATES - only exceptions are guys like HHH and Taker....
     
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    Sandow's character is a rip off of Lanny Poffo (sp?)... He'd wear a graduation outfit & act like he was smarter than anybody else... Poffo wears a robe but he does exactly the same thing Poffo did.
     
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    Toughest wrestler of all time is Mick Foley. What he did to his body at that Hell In The Cell match with the Undertaker is legendary. I remember the battles he had with Abdullah The Butcher in (NWA) WCW in the late 80's. Just slugging on each other in parking lots, on cars, trash cans, chairs...
    The other wrestler I used to like was Jerry Blackwell. He too, had some battles with the late King Kong Brody, who I understand was completely different away from the ring. He wasn't at all like the crazy maniac he pretended to be but an educated man... He was murdered in Mexico by another wrestler. Stabbed while changing at his locker.
     
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    You mean Bruiser Brody, don't you?

    He was so good a performer he earned legendary status as a travelling act. Few performers can afford or have the drawing power to do so. Andre the Giant was the other notable.

    Brody was booked by promotions all over the world as a visiting act to beat up the local hero or villian and thin turn his back and let the local win by that old rasslin' classic, snuggling up the trunks. :D
     

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